Thursday, August 19, 2010

It's not at Ground Zero

This issue is a tempest in a teapot.
A friend said the "mosque" is 300 feet from Ground Zero. It is not.

I have added color to this graphic I found at http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/041008_hit_piece.htm.
That is a map of that part of the city at the time of the attack.
If you look, the only way you can say it's two blocks is if you count from the corner of Church and Vesey. In addition to the six buildings on that block, there was a big plaza in the middle.
The Towers were on the other side from the spot most are using to justify the "two blocks" description. They were in the far corner.
So just pretend you are standing on that block, on Church Street. Place yourself in front of the Millenium Hotel, also marked in blue.
How far is it?
The Millennium Hilton's address is 55 Church Street, New York, NY. Do a Google map directions search for walking directions (because some of the streets are one-way or closed because of construction), and it is 2/10ths of a mile from "Ground Zero" to 51 Park Place.
That's 1,056 feet.
If you are on Church Street, looking uptown, you have to walk almost half of the Ground Zero block. You pass Fulton Street on your right. Then you come to the corner of Church and Vesey. You then walk another block to the corner of Church and Barclay. You then walk another block to the corner of Church and Park. You turn left and go down most of that block and you will see, on your left, the old Burlington Coat Factory store. Huge signs still on the building.
That is, in the reality of walking in New York, actually more than four blocks.
It is absolutely not a Ground Zero Mosque.
Some say it is not a mosque. But the tempest in a teacup begins with the idea that it is at Ground Zero.
Do street level view and here's a couple of glimpses of what you'll get -- 

View looking downtown from intersection of Park and Church.
View looking crossdown, toward Hudson River, from same intersection.

2 comments:

Liz said...

I dunno, Stephen. The pilots praised "Allah" and then killed thousands of people. Americans jumped to their deaths, people were burned alive, etc.

I suggest EVERYONE watch National Geographic's "Inside 9/11" and then decide if the location, albeit legal, is blatantly disrespectful, inappropriate and unacceptable. We tend to forget the horror of what happened over time and who directly caused that horror.

New York City is a big place and there are other locations... less controversial. Then again, perhaps controversy is the whole purpose of building this mosque. Divide and conquer... praise Allah.

SGuilfoyle said...

I don't forget what was done there. I tend to actually take it personally, given that it was always a dream of mine to have children, whom I would take to the Towers some day.
I think people are trying to manufacture outrage over this. There's already a mosque that's closer. An actual mosque.
This is one of those agree to disagree things, I guess. I think you have a principle, freedom of religion, and live by it, and accept the consequences.